we need a kind of sublimation here

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مشترك منذ تاريخ: 19/01/2010

GOOD DAY kulilkian’s ladies and gentlemen,
Yesterday I was heading from Damascus towards my dear home in Qamishlo rural , and for one moment I was tackling and revising ,in my mind ,kulilk’s website in general and the English Garden in specific, and let us stick here to the last one . Believe me people, we need to lead a real move within those bright pages, believe me, and excuse if I will be so critical of some dimensions of how we communicate and write here, we need a kind of sublimation here, we need a type of gratification to our words and to the meaning of our forum here, we need to Get rid of this over lazy simplicity and which develop in some cases to be a kind of triviality and ridicule. (From my point of view in sometimes about some issues presented).we need a real documentation and representation to our rich history and its elements.
Let us transform this forum into a gate of openness to the world of intellect and knowledge, into a place were people get introduced to the Kurds’ prime people and here I am not exaggerating, and to make it clear for you, how many times a foreigner have asked you about the history of Kurds and Kurdistan? and in automatic way you was obliged to search through your old library (if you have any) to find him a book or most of the time you are to explain it orally, and why not, instead of this complicated operations ,tell him openly go to www.kulilk.com/English whatever and there you will find what you want about the history of Kurds and Kurdistan and other rich international concerns { and here I will tell you later about my suggestion about changing the surfacetical (if the English use the word) name of the forum because it is over simplified and making so many branches entailed to it}.
By the way this feeling come over me after a bit of funny quarrel with my brat Shoresh about a joke about Garbians and ashitians in a comments in the English garden’s list of subjects entitled (shake it well). Any way, I can call it after exams-tensions.
Good fellows, I believe and deeply believe it is time for change to pass over some issues we discuss, we comment on, and we criticize, it is time to take things into its next levels. I can’t imagine a very huge and scattered comments and responses to a very old and silly joke we weren’t used to laugh at when we were just kids. And here, and because we are talking a bout what subjects needed to be addressed , Is there no real history to our nation and land to be tackled on for day and days and days ,but go and have an elongated photos and talks about love cards , love cards for God’s sake.
People, don’t misunderstand my message, I am not against love and making love cards, and by the way I am a human being and love but and the BUT is too big here, we must not allow it when it takes the place of higher priorities and greater issues must be addressed instead and all of you are convinced there are many concerns must be worried about and Questions must be answered, and our life is full of it.
And what can you think of a man (and with all respect to him, the author) filling pages with, let us say, funny joke in a subject titled ‘THIS IS THE MAN ‘. For me, it doesn’t make any sense ,what is the point ,do you want to tell us about sacrifices and it ways ,you can make a rich and saturated research and there is no harm if you include this joke in it , But to designate a whole subject to a very abbreviated joke and tell us this is about sacrifice ( as they say in ALQRAA lessons in the primary schools ). This is what we don’t accept and this is the thing the new generations of the Kurds must defy. And to have our name between the nations of the coming world. The world is changing people, think forward.
By the way, I am not against jokes, I like it, and they make life so sweet but and big BUT not at the expense of (let us say) the sublime. Because when we ignore the sublime and stick to the lovely smalls (and let me forget my GRAMMER here) we are trivializing ourself, this is trivialization, people
Oh , alas, and what can you say to someone coping and pasting to come and laugh at us ( as he claims) and make a subject called hot water or chilly water or whatever it is and by this violating all rules of the real author, and all you know what is this , plagiarism, people .
Once more dears, let me say: by the way, we aren’t against any one to read and read and we encourage him to do so, but to render to the real author if he Wanna share us what you have read.
What we want is to express it your way , and that is it , not a big deal and you know if you will plagiarize it easy for any one of us to detect your highness’s plagiarized subject in this age of IT.
And for my brother who are reminding us of the opening surah of the Holy Quran , what are trying to do , we all can get the all the holy Quran from various sources , what is your target. Just to make a subject.
God have mercy on us , believe me my friends for a seconds , I feel we are lost , we are without targets even though we are the owner of ever-green cause .
I still have many many things to say, my fingers are aching from the cold weather, but one last point I was trying to put it all those words long, but I failed, and I am obliged to say it in a separated way which is that our subjects must not be all about just Kurds and their history (as one may extract from my words) but about all the concerns of humanity and it’s people civilizations and all the sciences and every meaningful field help for the good of the humankind .
With all regards and respect to to the one addressed in a way or another in my words and no offense. I will be back so soon.
Thanks to our supervisor, Taha
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مشترك منذ تاريخ: 05/02/2006

Welcome back Zaf to ur lovely city ... Qamishly

Too many points, and i will be back to comment as critically as you did

You really added a good topic for refreashing (English Section)e

i ll be back :arrow:

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Al-Salam Alikm everybody

Well, I appreciate your way of thinking “ Critical Thinking” that ensures at least one essential point which is “ WE Are Not MACHINES But Human Beings Who Need To Think But Not Take Things For Granted”.
Honestly speaking, what you try to refer to is something that was there at the back of my mind most of the time when I was reviewing the English Section in Kulilk time after time

There have been many drawbacks (i.e. shortcomings) in the way things were discussed in the period before I become one of those “ BAD PEOPLE “ who shares actively in ‘English Section’, and I did my best to reorganize things . However, in these 4 or 5 months that I have been back to ‘Kulilk’ I tried my best to refresh this section but there are many issues that need more attention to be paid. You, Zaf, have mentioned many of these things that really should be highlighted

For example, I am one of the people who firmly disagrees with too much copying from other sites and then pasting here in ‘Kulilk’. In other words, we need to improve our abilities in expressing ourselves. I am talking generally not only about ‘English Section’ because I notice that some of ‘Kulilk members’ are obsessed with this habit so much. Actually, some members as you said do copy and paste without mentioning that they got this material from somewhere else.

Anyways, if anyone feels that the information s/he may copy in ‘Kulilk’ is PURPOSEFUL and a matter of much discussion, then it could copied.
In addition, it is recommended to be COMMENTED by him/her mentioning the ‘rationale’ (good reasons) for selecting this material in specific. I know that some of us will like to write sth s/he reads somewhere because we want the others to share us in our happiness or surprise and this is called ( vicarious pleasure).

In short, things should be ‘carefully-chosen’ if decided to copy and paste with mentioning the source.

I got your message, Zaf. Surely, by having a quick look at the topics listed in English Sections since the first scratch of Kulilk till today, you will read many topics that had to be considered as unacceptable or even inappropriate by those who posted them in here. To be deadly frank with you, I sent messages to some of them concerning this particular issue, but overlooked others on purposes till time is suitable.

More importantly, I think we need to offer ‘appropriate alternatives’ here in ‘English Section’ which have to be up to the proficiency levels of our nice members. In this way, we can monopolize the ‘English Section’ constructively and positively. To be more specific, many topics could be good options for most of the members when carefully being thought about. In fact, we have some good members who take part in here ‘Positively’ every so often (e.g. Sorgul, Bilessan, Pella, Patyar, media1, Ahmed-s, Hiam, Jooan, shoresh, Zoooz, Henry and ZAF >>> sorry for not mention the rest.
Too many things my friend, Zaf,

I should go now, I will be back later.

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oh mr taha .. u will back again after oll this comments!!!
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zaferiano .. ur topic is really have more and more comment ,,

thanks for u and mr taha

Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened

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مشترك منذ تاريخ: 18/02/2008

Hello Zafer & Taha

Thank you for your eagerness to put forward ideas, themes, and self-reliance to express our thoughts and opinions.
For the point made by Zafer on topics related to Kurds and Kurdistan, I think we need to books and documents to rely upon our information because it must be reliable and accurate, and it's relevant to the nation and history.
The rest of the social issues can be put in a new way, and develop appropriate solutions.

Many thanks for your efforts
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